Turbo - K1200R with 250 HP

[OSM62]

Hey Guys,

Here the link to infos and pics of a K1200R with Turbo and 250 HP:

http://www.mab-power.de/index.php?id=turbowerkstatt&tx_lzgallery_pi1%5BshowUid%5D=103

[Eka]

That's interesting. There is not yet ready kit in the list. Do you know what else they have done for that? Is there new pistons to lower compression ratio?

Problem here is that for inspection it has to have log sheet from pollution measuring. The closest place is in Sweden and it costs. Do they make that also? There is in the pictures "ca. 250PS mit KAT und EURO3", so looks like it is inspected.

[andrew s]

And I thought having 163 bhp, 173 claimed with a Staintune can fitted was high enough.

It does fit very nicely onto the bike, looks a job well done.

Andrew

[OSM62]

There is not yet ready kit in the list. Do you know what else they have done for that? Is there new pistons to lower compression ratio?

At the moment if didn´t have more infos of this kit.

[huecodoc]

From what I can gather by translating using Google, and converting currency (from euros), they make a variety of turbo kits, prices ranging from $5,300 USD to $7,200 for bikes of similar engine size, not including the 425HP Hayabusa kit. There may be a difference in the HP units from what we normally compare to in the USA, but I can't tell.

So far, I'm holding my upgrade dollars for a big upgrade like this. RBR racing has been making turbo BMW's for years, but have no website info yet on the new K's. BMWs have in the past been overbuilt then detuned, making them sturdy machines for turbo, but 13:1 compression is not in their favor now, and this axiom may no longer apply.

I don't want too much power, just enough to rip the tire loose anywhere from 0 to 100.

[Machine]

I'm supprised, the kit actually looks good. But 250 HP, DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM that bike has got to actually fly. Has anybody on this site actually ridden a bike with that much power? I would like to know what the aceleration feels like. As it is, the pull on my KS scares the living crap right out of me, I can't imagine 250 HP.

[jewilson]

I'm supprised, the kit actually looks good. But 250 HP, DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAM that bike has got to actually fly. Has anybody on this site actually ridden a bike with that much power? I would like to know what the aceleration feels like. As it is, the pull on my KS scares the living crap right out of me, I can't imagine 250 HP.

1/4 mile times in the high 8 seconds at 165mph, that my guess. Of course you can get the same results with Wet Nitrous and it would be alot cheaper and look much cleaner. The Turbo is also hard on the valves with with all that heat, a Super Charger is a better option. It still very cool.

[Solaris]

Does it include brackets to transport spare tires? I suppose you'll need a new tire every 20 km....
Naaa..... I don't think so. No thanks.

[jewilson]

Its strange that you would use a turbo with the stock exhaust can. Unless it no hooked up.

[Solaris]

I had exactly the same thaught! That can must really really get HOT!

[daotoys1]

Maybe they want the bike to pass strict emissions and/or db levels....

They could easily R&R to an open/race can when they wanted more power and/or sound from th bike....

[2xm3]

This was a couple of years back but my friend had a ZX-11 that he purchased new and sent to Mr.Turbo in (I think
Texas) for the motor re-build + turbo kit. Well anyway the result was 285 HP at the rear wheels The bike was nuts, at 100 in high gear if you wacked the throttle when boost hit up comes the front. All in all it was a real pain to ride, just to much power and no control. But I have to say if the road was straight and you were careful, BIG wow factor !!

[Eka]

I asked it for my KS, and they will change also the can. It comes only with their own can which you can see there. They make the emission test with that. I asked, if they can use my LeoVince, but they said no.

[ALAINMENGOLI]

DO you guys know if this would work on a k1200s or is the fairing in the way?
I would prefere a supercharger if anyone knew where I could get one?

[Eka]

There is pictures from KS with turbo:
[url]http://www.mab-power.de/turbowerkstatt.html?&tx_lzgallery_pi1[showUid]=104[/url]

About supercharger no idea, but this Rotrex looks very promising with compact size and own lubricating:
http://www.rotrex.eu.com/files/Rotrex_Technical_Datasheet_C15_Range_V_2.2.pdf

[Machine]

Insatlation on the S look pretty good, you can barely tell it's not a stock bike. A major sleeper (and Hayabusa killer).

[ALAINMENGOLI]

So how much is the turbo conversion costing? I don't speak german and can't make sense of the website. Do you have to bring the bike ot them to get it done or is it a diy job (obviously someone with some mechanical exp? I am very very tempted I love stupiud power. Reminds me when I trippled th epower of my HD sportster to 125bhp. Well only the gearbox casing was left standard!.

[Eka]

Here is their pricelist:
http://www.mab-power.de/turbokits.html

That KS set is with original pistons (compression is reduced with special spacer plates) and they will use later new pistons, which will propably cost more. That Euro 3 measurement is included. Here in Finland they don't do those measurements and the closest place is in Sweden. I think i read about it somewhere and in Sweden the measurement cost 1600€ plus the document 350€ - or something like that. Quite pricey, but it's the only way to register that here and use legally. Also here it's possible to increase the power only 20% without special licence, which will cost about 400€ and doesn't promise, that your bike will be accepted.

[ALAINMENGOLI]

Thanks for that, it seems way to much for a conversion. I was expecting around half as much but that's just me.
Will stick to the air filter conversion. Here in england you can get away with th econversion (I think) problem is that you might get an insurance company to insure you.

[Eka]

Now there is new pictures from KR with their cat and exhaust:


What is that seat cover?

[CoryK1200S]

Wow that kit cost more than 1/2 of what you pay for the bike. Wish I had the money to be able do put that thing on my bike, and feed it tires.

[Diljeet]

Who makes that headlight cover? Is that from AC Schnitzer? Has anyone put on a nitrous system? Probably a lot less money and you can use it when you need it.

[Eka]

The kit for KS is exactly the same as for KR. I have it now. The exhaust is like in that orange one. There is a new kit with new pistons and con rods for up to 300hp. New ones in the right:

It is coming also longer gear in gearbox for that later. Then it should go up to 315 km/h, if i remember right.

[Eka]

Today i was driving around some quiet roads and that turbo is really amazing. It really kicks after 4500rpm. Keeping the revs above that it's smoother to handle, but the throttle is very sensitive to mistakes. Couple of times i had some extra program in my cockpit, when opening too much out of curve. It's easy to lost the grip with that power. In first gear it always wheelies, when accelerating in full throttle. In second it's sometimes possible to keep the nose down, when bending forward. In third it keeps the nose down mostly without eny extra efford - thanks to long wheelbase. My wrists are half meter longer and my inner thights hurts after trying to stay on board. I have now enjoyed about 1500km that turbopower, and i must recommend this MAB-power turbokit. The bad thing is, that my licence needs only one fine to loose again.

[Eka]

I put this product in my kit:
http://www.turbosmart.com.au/index.php?id=43


It come huge amount more low end and reduced turbo lag. That is a switchable bleeder. Bleeder reduces the pressure to wastegate and it wouldn't open so much and it will produce more boost. When needed more power, just switch that bleeder on. It also limits wastegate to work under 0,4 bar. It does get much faster that boost. I tried 0,9 bar pressure and it is just crazy. Fully opening throttle from third gear at 100km/h, the front starts to fly and rear starts to spin. The aerodynamics perhaps force the front down. It feels like it flies just few centimeters off ground. My rear is quite finish and propably better grip would get the nose better up. Now the rear just spin like crazy all the way to limiter. Couldn't try it properly from fourth gear, but there is a lot more low end. I hope it will hold together.